Meeting of 9 March, 2013 | Libertarian Party of San Francisco

Meeting of 9 March, 2013

Denny Bailey

Libertarian Party of San Francisco Agenda:  Saturday, March 9, 2013

Meeting Location:  SF Main Library, 4th Floor Conference Room


  1. Welcome and Introductions 3:05-3:10
  2. Activist Reports - Past & Future 3:11-3:25
  3. Announcements 3:26-3:35
  4. Treasurer’s Report 3:36-3:40
  5. Website Update 3:41-3:45
  6. Nullify NDAA Update 3:46-3:55
  7. Pride Booth June 29 & 30 3:56-4:00
  8. Tax Day Event 4:01-4:44
  9. Get The Fluoride Out (Clint Griess) 4:45-5:00

Written by Denny Bailey
Monday, March 18, 2013

Minutes of the LPSF Meeting of March 9th, 2013

Members Present: Aubrey Freedman (Chair), Marcy Berry (Vice Chair), Denny Bailey
(Secretary), Michael Edelstein, Jawj Greenwald, Starchild (late arrival) and
Eric John Diesel (Joined at Meeting).
Visitors: Matt Murphy, Jeff Burrell and Benson Cooper.
Guest: Clint Griess



We began the meeting with an introduction of our guest Clint Griess and his
issue of getting fluoride out of municipal water supplies. He gave us a brief
history and overview of how fluoride additives began. Then we met Jeff Burrell
who was introduced to our group at the last general election and would like to
learn more about us. Aubrey, Marcy, Michael and Denny gave brief introductions.
Returning to Clint for some discussion of topically applied fluoride, including
dentist avoidance of the subject. Next returning visitor, Benson Cooper
introduced himself. We then heard introductions from Eric John Diesel and his
cause of protecting the liberty and wealth of the elderly from predatory legal
processes. Lastly we meet returning visitor Matt Murphy.


Activist Report:

Benson is trying to determine what the most important issues are to apply his
energies. Clint is organizing a march and presentation to remove fluoride from
drinking water. Matt has been actively involved in local debates at the
Commonwealth Club spreading the message of liberty. The group is
called SFDebate. Visitor Jeff attended Rand Paul's filibuster and has been
enlightening the public on its meaning. Denny had been exchanging emails with
Nadia Kayyali at concerning the SF NDAA resolution and the LPSF's
involvement. Starchild is attending the national LP meeting as a representative
coming up in Chicago. Next we heard from Michael who attended the Board of Supervisors
NDAA meeting and has been published on Rand Paul's Facebook page. Also he joined
the Mises Institute. Marcy attended her local city District 7 open house with
Norman Yee. She encouraged everyone to attend their local district and speak
about Plan Bay Area. She is also donating a button making machine to the
party. Eric John Diesel is trying to design homes and homeowner services that
can avoid government permits. Lastly our Chair, Aubrey who also attended the
Board of Supervisors meeting on the NDAA resolution and was able to speak on our behalf.
The resolution passed unanimously.


Clint's group has its march on Union Square planned for
March 22nd 2013 at 3pm and the symposium follows at 4pm.
Starchild reminds us of the State Libertarian Party Convention in Sacramento on
April 5th and 6th. Information at He took some
time to tell us about his experience with the San Francisco Fire Credit Union
and his floor motion against government regulations and snooping.


Treasurer's Report:
Aubrey reported that the LPSF has $3,229.26


Website Update:


Our Vice-Chair Marcy reported that the new website is live using Joomla 2.5 and
wants to add Paypal or some other digital payment systems for membership and
donations. She has requested volunteers. Phil suggests we should accept Bitcoin
as well. He has his account at Coinbase. Some debate ensues and it’s agreed that
we should be open to accepting payment any way possible. Marcy will research and
report back.

Nullification of NDAA update:

Aubrey reports that the resolution passed and that he was able to socialize with
other groups who were supporting this motion, and with Starchild is trying to
gather support for taking this to the state level.

Pride Booth:

Aubrey has reserved the booth and paid the fees. He reminds everyone to have
the date available June 29th and 30th to volunteer.

Tax Day Event:

Aubrey opens discussion for the proposed tax day event. In addition to the Tax Day Table event, a march to the Federal Building will follow and literature distribution at the main post
office up until midnight. Carol Robinson of and Lois Garcia of San Mateo LP are also advertising for our event. Starchild highlights the controversies that came to
light on our email groups. He has proposed that paying a fee to exercise our
First Amendment rights is not necessary. The other is the proposed location of
Civic Center plaza. Some discussion follows and several ideas are proposed including not aligning with Tea Partiers, having the event at a BART station, in front of H&R Block. Marcy motions to move forward with the existing plan with Eric seconding. Starchild moves to split the question but finds no support and Phil calls the question. Majority vote for
Marcy's original motion and Starchild asks for clarification of the issue. Vice-Chair Marcy, clarifies that we are having a Tax Day Event on April 15th at Civic Center Plaza, consisting of an outreach table in Civic Center Plaza, and a march from Civic Center to the Federal Building.
Phil again calls the question, and the measure passed 5-1.


Get The Fluoride Out:

Lastly we gave the floor to visitor Clint Griess to talk about his movement to
get the fluoride out. He spoke for some time about his cause and distributed
cards. Starchild began discussion of having LPSF sponsor the event and getting
LP leadership positions in Clint's group. Eric John Diesel dissents and the
matter was tabled for future review. Details about his event and organization
can be found at

Meeting was closed with a lesson for Clint, by Phil, Aubrey and Starchild on the
Libertarian's foremost principle of non-aggression, as stated on our membership
forms "I do not believe in or advocate the initiation of force as a means of
achieving political or social goals."